Never before was there as good a reason to pirate movies as the (really really bad) anti-piracy ads I have to sit through when I’ve bought an original DVD.
Amen!
Thanks Alice
PS: Entirely unrelated, but have a listen to Kraftwerk as played by 8-bit controllers.
So say we all
So say we all
Oh hell, I knew I wasn’t the only one who felt these were so annoying and made me incredibly angry. Every time them come up, I think about pirating movies. Do they not realise they’ll edit these OUT of the pirated-version? So the only people you’re telling (and severely annoying) are the people who pay good money for these products and support the movie industry?
That is so true!
Next thing we know they’ll be charging for tickets to see movies in theatres, and then make us watch advertising, so that we pay twice! Oh wait …
Could not agree more!
Those 8-bit Kraftwerk versions rocks!
[quote comment=“102706”]Next thing we know they’ll be charging for tickets to see movies in theatres, and then make us watch advertising, so that we pay twice! Oh wait …[/quote]
Yeh, but you can turn up late at the cinema, and miss them (and just get the trailers)… turn up 15 minutes after the ‘starting’ time.
Yes, movie studios should not put those annoying anti-piracy ads at the beginning of DVDs, but it doesn’t mean pirating movies is OK. Thankfully, most DVDs don’t have them.
As a lover of movies I would expect that you, Michael, of all people, would be against movie piracy.
I’m against stupid schemes more than I’m against anything, and anti-piracy ads on legitimate DVD’s, ‘don’t copy that floppy’ ads om the cinema and DRM are all things that punish the very consumer they aren’t aimed at…
There is a really really really bad german anti-piracy add:
Little Children scream a birthday song for her pirate-father over the jail-wall.
Now imagine: You want to see a DVD with this on your expensive surround-sound-system and you have adjusted the volume to a good movie-level. Then: shrill and overly loud child voices are shredding into your auditory canal. Your ears will be ringing for days…
Happens here once on a movie evening with friends. And what have we learned from this add? To leave the volume off till the main movie starts or better to buy some independent video productions.
Oh man, that’s great! I go nuts every time I put in a DVD and I’m presented with one of these ridiculous ads. They’re down right insulting.
One of the most annoying things about those adverts at the start of the DVDs is the fact they remove the ability to skip past it. True, you can fast forward through it but they really haven’t thought about the target audience very much have they?
It just goes to show how stupid FACT actually are!
It made me laugh last time I went to the cinema and experienced said advert too. As an example of a movie to truly experience at the cinema they used Apocalypto. “Don’t buy pirated movies”? More like “Don’t buy crap movies!”
I’ve got a $150 Sony DVD player and can skip right past the FBI warning track, and pretty much anything else, no problem. I’ll look at the model # tonight and post it here if anyone’s interested.
I use Xbox Media Center for DVD playing, and I can always just press “menu” to go straight to the menu.
If there’s stuff between the menu and the actual movie, I need some guesswork before I find the right title manually.
Yet again the studio’s miss the fraking point. Why bother with this shit?
Seriously.
And this is why I’m now reticent to buy DVDs, because my money, that should be going to the cast, crew and producer/ directors ends up being funnelled into million dollar campaigns that do squat to stop such activities.
Punish your consumers – what a great idea!
[quote comment=“102755”]I’ve got a $150 Sony DVD player and can skip right past the FBI warning track, and pretty much anything else, no problem.[/quote]
Yes, but not all players can do that – I have a cheap DVD player that has started to flake out, that lets me bypass all sorts of heinously idiotic crap. ;)
My somewhat more expensive and preferred Sony DVD player, refuses to skip those warnings and will joyously play them despite me fevered button pressing.
So I can either have a crap experience, sans FBI, or a crap experience because of the FBI.
I ‘<3‘ the FBI. I now feel the need to smash something.
I agree completely. My collection of DVD’s is BIG…really really big actually. And not one illegal DVD. I’ve proud of my collection, and enjoy it. So why the h*** do I have to sit through trailers and “piracy is stealing” ads. I pay because I don’t want to see advertising, like some channels have.
This is why I rip all my DVDs. I legally purchased them but I want to view them on my own terms and remove the anti-piracy ads.
[quote post=“2490”]This is why I rip all my DVDs. I legally purchased them but I want to view them on my own terms and remove the anti-piracy ads.[/quote]
In order to edit the movie, you would have to break the encryption on the DVD. Just remember that this is not legal (at least in the U.S.)
What a bunch of crybabies!
I’m not about insulting you guys, but you have so much handed to you on a platter and you’re complaining about the stupid anti-piracy notice. Do you even remember the days of VHS when we had to fast-forward through all the movie trailers just to go to the movie?
I’m living here in China, and piracy is out of control here. I have heard they even sell bootlegs at Wal*Mart here. The movie makers just want to get the message out that pirating isn’t okay so what happened here doesn’t happen in the U.S. Not everyone is as well informed as we are. I know plenty of people who are clueless about piracy.
It’s pathetic how little patience you guys have that you can’t sit through the stupid anti-piracy ad. You’re making your own world into an intolerable hell if you don’t have patience.
Let me put your reasoning into perspective:
“Do you even remember the days of XXXXXXX when we had to XXXXXXX just to XXXXXXX?”
Now you can insert whatever you want in there, and it’ll make anyone almost seem like a cry baby if they disagree. Here, let’s try: no cars, walk, get somewhere. Or this: hitler, run, live.
Everything is relative, but if you know anything about movie piracy, you know that region codes and anti-piracy messages do nothing (_nothing!_) to halt piracy.
[quote post=“2490”]
It’s pathetic how little patience you guys have that you can’t sit through the stupid anti-piracy ad. You’re making your own world into an intolerable hell if you don’t have patience.[/quote]
So, it’s OK by you if I interrupt you to deliver a lecture whenever I feel like it, and charge you a fee for the priviledge. Cool: brief lecture follows, there’s an invoice on the way.
If the proseletising were aimed at the pirates, legitimate product wouldn’t be the place to reach them, would it? After all, it’s the one thing you can be fairly sure they’re unlikely to see. You think Hollywood doesn’t know how to communicate and target a message? That’s what they do for a living. They’re talking to the paying public because that’s who their message is aimed at. It isn’t prevention, it’s propaganda.
The surest way to avoid the offensive, hectoring, accusatory propagandising is; always buy pirate DVDs.
[quote comment=“104484”]This is why I rip all my DVDs. I legally purchased them but I want to view them on my own terms and remove the anti-piracy ads.[/quote]
Yes, but these same people have made that illegal through DCMA. You’ve broken the CSS encryption on that DVD and are thus in violation of the law.
I’m not defending that, I’m just pointing out that their whole approach to protecting their business is to harass their paying customers.
The DMCA of course, is broken, according to its author.
I dunno about you guys. But I always find myself laughing at the anti-piracy ads on copied DVDs. Amuses me every time.
Just think of all the wasted energy spent on showing the ads!!
10 secs of anti-piracy warnings * 10,000,000 dvd movie viewings each day = 100,000,000 secs per day which is equivalent to 27777 hours of TV without any effect on piracy!!
and that’s equivalent to a lot of kWh, and that’s per day!! that 10000000 hours of wasted TV hours each year!! that’s enough energy to power a house for 2 years!!
[quote]You’ve broken the CSS encryption on that DVD and are thus in violation of the law.[/quote]
actually the CSS encryption is illegal itself as it hinders free trade laws
I have over 300 films on DVD, all but 6 or 7 legally bought. I download from the net because I want to see if the film is worth paying upwards of €20 for. Most aren’t, I prefer the quality of the real thing, and the ads are annoying in the extreme. However, if these people really want to stop piracym these very annoying ads are not the way. Try knocking the price down. I mean how can they justify charging €25 for ‘Casablanca’ the move has paid for itself thousands of times over. They make millions on these blockbusters before they come out on DVD, they then charge €20 – 30 when it comes out. 3 months later they are trying to shift them for €5. Stop being so fucking greedy. And stop this whining that piracy is killing future movie production. Just like audio cassettes in the 60’s killed live music, and VHS has also killed the move industry hasn’t it?
I love the F.A.C.T. anti piracy slogan,
“ Don’t let the pirates burn a hole in your pocket”
Err, pirated dvd’s are cheaper arent they ?
I also hate the can’t be skipped adverts.
Hmm, bacon… pirate movies r like taco bell or fast food. u pay little for something fattening, but “good” at the same time (to some ppl)
You pay fro what u get!
Its like cars, why the hell do i need a certificate for a “Certified Pre-owned Car” \I already know its used… because its got a poster on the windshield saying “used”
ppl used to be: I dont! need to pay $6,000 for a used car.
But now there telling all there friends that they got a new car,: Yeah its great! and i only spent $6,000 on a “Certified Pre-owned Car”
Thats like a women who has been devorced… all the papers r saying is: that shes been “Certified Pre-fuc*ed” (before me)
There is so much shit in these anti-piracy ads, “dont buy poor quality pirate movies”…so is it ok to buy good copys?
“piracy is linked to organised crime, and funds terrorism” anyone seen bin laden tryin to sell some dvds lately? afghanistan version of make your cave over anyone?…i want it mr laden, plz get me a pirate copy!
So many movies these days are utter shit! now if they made good movies and didnt pay over rated actors huge sums of money, they wouldnt be losing as much profit. If a movie is good people will buy it, star wars, matrix’s, titanic, just a few that spring to mind that have made huge revenue dvd sales, people dont wanna pay for shit, especially when its over priced shit!
I can buy blank dvds for £0.10p each, photo paper £0.06p, dvd case £0.07p, if i can get it that price, you know they get it a damn site cheaper!
and they try to charge insane amounts of money, i remember the first 3 dvds i ever purchased from a store, mission impossible 1+2, and the great escape, 3 for £40 SPECIAL OFFER! major rip off, ok it was about 6/7yrs ago or somethin, but no way did it warrant those kind of costs and rip people off. Now they feel the backlash of ripping people off, serves them right!
RipOffUK
I’ve never heard of F.A.C.T… but maybe that’s because I haven’t purchased a movie in 16 years (my entire life), but that’s beside the point.
I have been doing a lot of reading over the past two years, and I’ve learned that the MPAA and the RIAA are a bunch of idiots. They sue their own customers. Their own CUSTOMERS! What are they, morons? You want people to pay for your content, and then you force them to watch these useless ads? Oh, well…
Good thing I live in Canada. They can’t get me in the Great White North! If my ISP let slip what I’ve been doing for the past three years, I’d be in a very deep hole right now. More pirated content has passed through this internet connection than that of any other person I know. Did you guys know that 300 got leaked during its second week in theatres? I’ve seen that movie around five times at home, and once in the theatres (I snuck into that, btw). I’ve already burnt a few copies for my mates. Nobody should miss that movie.
Related to the RIAA:
http://p2pnet.net/story/11777
http://p2pnet.net/story/11785
As you can probably figure, I am a very bad kid. I should be sued like that 10 year old girl in that first link. If that story makes your blood boil, like it did mine, then check out that second link. That attorney really handed RIAA their own ass back to them. On a silver platter nonetheless! That letter is Gold. That attorney is my hero.
I don’t really know how this post got so long. My intentions were to just rant about how much I love being a pirate, but my thoughts drifted. Sorry about that. Enjoy the links – that letter to the RIAA is a really good read.
/Rant
//— FaJu
I think the real thing those idiot movie companies are missing is..if I’m a pirate, I’m not going to see that bloody add because I’ll never watch a legit copy of the dvd anyways!
First of all, Itunes & the apple tv is basicly encouraging pirate video. Second, why should some bullshit actor make 20 gazillion? I have not a doubt in my mind anyone on this forum has at least something pirated. The internet is about free-ideas, and well that leads to free trade. If its possible it may happen; I would buy an entire album for $10 – 15… but why? The big boys want $20+… so I’ll get it for free. Big dogs need to overcome and deal, shit or get out.
… its not like they couldn’t encrypt dvd’s… I mean come on… I worked w/ crypto in the AF and it aint rock sicience.
This is largely the problem with ALL copy protection schemes, the people who do the mass pirating rip the copy protection and stupid shit off to “raise the quality of the release” so anyone who downloads the pirated copy gets a nice clean version of whatever is being distributed while those of us who pay for it get a butchered screwed up copy… for $20 more. Yes, it definitely hard to understand why someone would be interested in pirating… oh and lets not forget the other annoyances… non-skippable commercials, non-skipable trailers, the stupid fbi warning about piracy, the stupid mpaa warning about privacy, incompatibility with some players, localization, and the list goes on and on…
I don’t buy DVDs. OK well, I DO buy some on blu-ray if I really want lossless sound and it was filmed in HD.
However, I resist even that – as once day we will all just download the fraking things ANYWAYS.
Oh, and do you think they will let you download it for free if you already own the VHS/DVD/Blu-Ray? FRAK NO! BAH!
[quote comment=“102722”]Yes, movie studios should not put those annoying anti-piracy ads at the beginning of DVDs, but it doesn’t mean pirating movies is OK. Thankfully, most DVDs don’t have them.
As a lover of movies I would expect that you, Michael, of all people, would be against movie piracy.[/quote]
He actually never said he was for piracy…seriously, not even close.
Pirates are hot.
Watch a pirated edition of Pirates of the caribean, it enhances the experience.
you can put up all the ads you want. people will still pirate movies. and theaters will still run eight minutes of commercials before a movie (I seriously was ready to burn down my local theater when I first saw this. eight bucks for a ticket and I have to sit through commercials!?!?!?) welcome to capitalism. Hell, welcome to the human freaking race. deal with it.
This is why I don’t own a single legitimately purchased DVD. Torrents ftw.
Well… that and the fact that I’m cheap.
I would never spend my hard earned dollars on some stupid hollywood cash grab. If torrents didn’t exist I would go to the library and get a book instead.
Don’t pretend my downloads are making you lose money, because there’s no way in hell you’d get it in any case.
[quote post=“2490”]Good thing I live in Canada. They can’t get me in the Great White North! If my ISP let slip what I’ve been doing for the past three years, I’d be in a very deep hole right now. More pirated content has passed through this internet connection than that of any other person I know. Did you guys know that 300 got leaked during its second week in theatres? I’ve seen that movie around five times at home, and once in the theatres (I snuck into that, btw). I’ve already burnt a few copies for my mates. Nobody should miss that movie.[/quote]
man i’m with u on this subject… if im caught im outta here, for good. i dont buy dvds or “movies” or go to the movies either cause im broke at that time or i just think its not right to pay that price! i’ve pirated so many movies, programs that cost at least a thousand dollars, “AutoCAD”. and others that cost well in the hundreds, “SolidWorks”. and there not registered. bad for me ☻= :o and then burned them to dvds and gave a couple to some friends and teachers, But!, im not doin it for profit.
so many ps2 games riped and burned also.
i have no PS2 but i’ve got Emulators..!
and all this within the past 2 years on 2 comps, non-the-less.
i live in the US but im not sayin where….…
This is the entry that just won’t die; so I’m putting it down. Especially since the clientel seems to have veered towards the ‘I’m pirating stuff cuz I’m an asshole’-type. And I don’t need people like that on here.
My argument stands; punishing people who buy their movies or games, whether it be through region-coding or stupid ‘pirating is supporting communism’ ads, only adds incentive to pirating.