Comments on: Duke Nukem Forever and Ever and… http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/ Halb mensch, halb ding. Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:42:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Michael http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-117376 Michael Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:14:12 +0000 http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-117376 Well, my expectations are that they'll never ship. So if they box a turd and call it DNF, they'll have met my expectations :D But then, I never bought in to the idea of nearly carbon-copying Ash into a game :) Well, my expectations are that they’ll never ship. So if they box a turd and call it DNF, they’ll have met my expectations :D

But then, I never bought in to the idea of nearly carbon-copying Ash into a game :)

]]> By: Mike http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-117362 Mike Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:35:14 +0000 http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-117362 Well, no, I don't think that is the question. If, for no other reason, than it allows for an obvious answer: four. However, that seems like a defeatist approach to the situation - as if 3DRealms owes you four awesome games, cause they made you wait so long. I don't see it like that. I'd rather have one DNF than zero, and all I'm saying is that I think it'll come out and rock. Whether it took 1 year or 10 years doesn't really affect my enjoyment of the game. I'm certainly not saying you'll enjoy it. As you stated, it can't possibly live up to your expectations. So that's fair enough. Well, no, I don’t think that is the question. If, for no other reason, than it allows for an obvious answer: four.

However, that seems like a defeatist approach to the situation – as if 3DRealms owes you four awesome games, cause they made you wait so long. I don’t see it like that. I’d rather have one DNF than zero, and all I’m saying is that I think it’ll come out and rock. Whether it took 1 year or 10 years doesn’t really affect my enjoyment of the game.

I’m certainly not saying you’ll enjoy it. As you stated, it can’t possibly live up to your expectations. So that’s fair enough.

]]> By: Michael http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-117315 Michael Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:39:49 +0000 http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-117315 Here's the way I look at it: DNF has spent 10 years in development. Let's say the average AAA title spends about 2.5 years in production, give or take. That's 4 major AAA titles that DNF has to deliver on to make up for the time and money spent. And it won't. It _almost_ doesn't matter how good it ends up being, it can't live up to the expextations of 4 AAA titles. And so the question is, would you rather have one or four really good games? Here’s the way I look at it: DNF has spent 10 years in development. Let’s say the average AAA title spends about 2.5 years in production, give or take. That’s 4 major AAA titles that DNF has to deliver on to make up for the time and money spent.

And it won’t. It almost doesn’t matter how good it ends up being, it can’t live up to the expextations of 4 AAA titles. And so the question is, would you rather have one or four really good games?

]]> By: Mike http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-117269 Mike Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:09:57 +0000 http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-117269 Okay, I'll take the bait :P 1) Yes, I believe that 3DRealms <em>will</em> finish DNF. 2) Yes, I think it will be awesome. Here's why: 1) They are still hiring people for that game specifically. After 10 years, if they're still hiring new people, it just wouldn't make any sense to give up at this point. 2) I think the comparison to Daikatana is a poor one - although yes, that game also took way too long. Everything that has been released for DNF has impressed me (except, of course, the fact that the GAME hasn't been released). Duke3D was the first FPS to blow my mind (which it truly did) and it's the same guys behind this title. <strong>id</strong>'s stuff was <em>technically</em> great, and Romero had design influence, but that certainly doesn't put him in line with the 3DRealms guys. Anyhow, I'm keeping the faith. If the game sucks, I'll be the first one to say "Worst. Failure. Ever." But, if the game rocks and 3DRealms plays their cards right (in terms of media coverage and advertising the release), people will hardly be able to control themselves. Okay, I’ll take the bait :P

1) Yes, I believe that 3DRealms will finish DNF.
2) Yes, I think it will be awesome.

Here’s why:

1) They are still hiring people for that game specifically. After 10 years, if they’re still hiring new people, it just wouldn’t make any sense to give up at this point.

2) I think the comparison to Daikatana is a poor one – although yes, that game also took way too long. Everything that has been released for DNF has impressed me (except, of course, the fact that the GAME hasn’t been released). Duke3D was the first FPS to blow my mind (which it truly did) and it’s the same guys behind this title. id‘s stuff was technically great, and Romero had design influence, but that certainly doesn’t put him in line with the 3DRealms guys.

Anyhow, I’m keeping the faith. If the game sucks, I’ll be the first one to say “Worst. Failure. Ever.” But, if the game rocks and 3DRealms plays their cards right (in terms of media coverage and advertising the release), people will hardly be able to control themselves.

]]> By: Bjørn Olav Vangen Aure http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-116872 Bjørn Olav Vangen Aure Sat, 28 Apr 2007 13:51:44 +0000 http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-116872 [quote comment="116140"]And yet you know NOTHING about it... :)[/quote] That's is true, but it's more like a cool thing to have, <b>if</b> it comes out :) [quote comment=“116140”]And yet you know NOTHING about it… :)[/quote]
That’s is true, but it’s more like a cool thing to have, if it comes out :)

]]> By: Kujira http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-116469 Kujira Fri, 27 Apr 2007 23:44:29 +0000 http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-116469 Now that i think about it, this is absolutely hilarious (not for the producer). It was like the 1st time I played Duke nukem 3D, i was about 11 or 12 years old or something. And now am 20, and the news about Duke Nukem Forever hit the news from time to time. It really is forever, and it should stay like that forever. Daikatana!? Was it a game or sth? I think i played it at some point when I was really young lol. Now that i think about it, this is absolutely hilarious (not for the producer).
It was like the 1st time I played Duke nukem 3D, i was about 11 or 12 years old or something. And now am 20, and the news about Duke Nukem Forever hit the news from time to time. It really is forever, and it should stay like that forever.

Daikatana!? Was it a game or sth? I think i played it at some point when I was really young lol.

]]> By: peroty http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-116356 peroty Fri, 27 Apr 2007 19:21:01 +0000 http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-116356 Any game that wins a lifetime achievement vaporware award from Wired deserves a purchase. If it ever gets to that point. Any game that wins a lifetime achievement vaporware award from Wired deserves a purchase. If it ever gets to that point.

]]> By: Azazel http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-116338 Azazel Fri, 27 Apr 2007 18:40:35 +0000 http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-116338 Oh no! Duke again? I think you know about S.T.A.L.K.E.R? Five years they do it and what? It is ordinary First Person Shooter... Oh no! Duke again? I think you know about S.T.A.L.K.E.R? Five years they do it and what? It is ordinary First Person Shooter…

]]> By: Gil Megidish http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-116299 Gil Megidish Fri, 27 Apr 2007 17:15:35 +0000 http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-116299 I hope they never finish it. Cause if they do, it won't be Duke Nukem Forever anymore. It will just be Duke Nukem 10 Years in The Making. Now, what kind of a title is that?? I hope they never finish it.

Cause if they do, it won’t be Duke Nukem Forever anymore. It will just be Duke Nukem 10 Years in The Making. Now, what kind of a title is that??

]]> By: Michael http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-116140 Michael Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:36:13 +0000 http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-116140 And yet you know NOTHING about it... :) And yet you know NOTHING about it… :)

]]> By: Bjørn Olav Vangen Aure http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-116135 Bjørn Olav Vangen Aure Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:27:10 +0000 http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-116135 You're totally correct, but I'm still going to buy the game when it comes out :P You’re totally correct, but I’m still going to buy the game when it comes out :P

]]> By: Jason Cuddy http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-116132 Jason Cuddy Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:26:07 +0000 http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-116132 'The following things have happened since Duke Nukem Forever was announced...' http://duke.a-13.net/ ‘The following things have happened since Duke Nukem Forever was announced…’

http://duke.a-13.net/

]]> By: Deranged Hermit » Blog Archive » Forever … http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-116119 Deranged Hermit » Blog Archive » Forever … Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:03:39 +0000 http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-116119 [...] Heilemann said something great on his blog about this: I look forward to reading the book about this, the biggest [...] […] Heilemann said something great on his blog about this: I look forward to reading the book about this, the biggest […]

]]> By: Andre Costa http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-116112 Andre Costa Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:51:03 +0000 http://binarybonsai.com/archives/2007/04/27/duke-nukem-forever-forever-and-ever-and/#comment-116112 "Time flies when you're having fun playing games that aren't Duke Nukem Forever." “Time flies when you’re having fun playing games that aren’t Duke Nukem Forever.”

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